Live-Blogging Doctor Who: The Fires of Pompeii
Posted 13 July 2008 in Doctor Who by Catriona
Time for the second episode of season four, with special guest stars my parents. Mind, they won’t be making an appearance during this live-blogging unless they say something extremely funny.
But it’s been a convivial day: we went to see the Picasso exhibition at the Gallery of Modern Art—I’m not saying it was poorly curated, because I don’t think it was, but it was intensely crowded, which made it remarkably difficult to get close to the smaller, more delicate pieces, such as the Degas . . . engravings, I think they were. But they could have been pencil drawings, or charcoal, because I couldn’t get close enough to read the labels.
Then we had a lovely, slightly boozy lunch to celebrate the positive reports on my Ph.D. thesis.
And, of course, then we boozed a little more over our leftover roast-beef sandwiches for dinner.
So convivial is, I think, the best word.
In fact, take this earlier conversation as emblematic:
DAD: What’s that noise?
ME: Fruitbats.
NICK: It’s best not to ask what they’re doing.
ME: They’re fighting. Definitely fighting.
NICK: Well, something starting with “f.”
He later claimed that he meant “fraternising,” but I’m not sure that’s better.
Of course, when I started this, I thought we were closer to the start of Doctor Who than we are, because I always forget that the sports broadcast (or “braidcast,” according to my keyboard) starts at quarter past the hour these days.
But we’re up to the weather now, and while I never intended to live-blog the weather, that means we can’t be far off actual Doctor Who now.
In the interim, apparently there are isolated showers around the coast. Of course, that’s only relevant if you’re in Queensland, so make of that what you will.
My spell-checker doesn’t recognise the word “Queensland.” And we’re supposed to be the Smart State.
If Doctor Who doesn’t start soon, this will be the most boring blog post in history.
Ooh, we’ve started! I was distracted.
We’re in “ancient Rome.” I’d like to go to ancient Rome. (Should that have a capital letter?)
This was the first episode where I really liked Donna. And I do love the geeky Latin jokes, but it’s been a while since I’ve been able to say “veni, vidi, vici” after the football.
The make-up on these seers (spoiler!) really creeps me out, especially the eyes on their hands. Whoops, spoilers again.
Pompeii on Volcano Day—that’s a Captain Jack reference, surely? The Doctor only borrowed it from him.
My mother’s very confused about why the Latin that Donna’s speaking wouldn’t actually come out as Latin. That seems a good point: perhaps the TARDIS’s translation circuits aren’t very good?
You’d think he’d have some sort of bicycle lock—or something—for the TARDIS: it’s always going missing. Mind, I wish this man hadn’t bought the TARDIS as modern art, because it’s only likely to rekindle Nick’s desire to actually have a TARDIS in the corner of our living room—and we really don’t have room for one.
Ooh, cavorting with Etruscans. Sounds funs.
Unlike being a seer: that doesn’t seem as though it’s fun at all. Especially not if all you have to do is breathe in hot smoke all the time.
Dad’s slightly alarmed by the stone creature under the house. He’s a vocal TV watcher: he tends to respond to programmes with little muttered comments like “oh god, what’s that?”
Ah, hands on eyes. And eyes on hands. Simultaneously. That creeps me out, but I’m not entirely sure why. There have been many more disturbing things in Doctor Who over the years.
One of the things that I like about Donna is that she’s stroppy. We’ve had stroppy companions before, but I’ve always liked them. Like Ace.
Is it wrong that I find that Spartacus joke so funny that I just snorted out loud? (I mean, obviously the snorting out loud is wrong, but it was involuntary.)
The Romans don’t have a word for “volcano”? Is that true? (Tim, you’d know that, wouldn’t you? Because I can’t be bothered getting up and fetching the OED.)
The exchange of prophecies is hilarious, especially since three-quarters of what the Doctor says doesn’t make sense. Do you know, I really like this writer? His episode of Torchwood was devastating, but this one is so funny: he manages to make the Spartacus joke and the “she’s from Barcelona” line work in an ahistorical context.
I’d forgotten the “there’s something on your back” line Lucius directs to Donna. That’s interesting. Or it will be in about two months.
Of course, my dad wants to know now, because he’s impatient, but he’ll just have to wait.
This Doctor’s like a puppy: he’s constantly inquisitive—he’s looking at the pit the vapours come out of, at the moment—and always looking to see who he can make friends with. It’s one of the aspects that I think Tennant has brought to the role—the Doctor’s usually had high social skills, but this puppy-friendliness is new—and one of the aspects that I like most about the character. That and the fact that he’s completely mad, in a rather Tom Baker fashion.
Now the Doctor’s breaking into Lucius’s house. Really, would you want a great steaming pit in the middle of your living room? Although, I wouldn’t mind a fountain, especially in Brisbane in the summer. I could have goldfish. And lilies.
Donna’s toga is a little low-cut, isn’t it? And did women wear togas? Or was that purely a man’s costume: were the women’s dresses called something else?
Ah, Donna’s about to put her foot in it. I can see why she does it, and it’s a good thing—it’s an inevitable thing, really, for a novice time traveller—but she’ll regret that when the Sibylline Sisterhood get their hands on her.
Hey, my computer recognises “Sibylline” as a word, where it doesn’t recognise “Queensland.” Or “Spartacus.” I find that remarkably odd.
Go on, pull his arm off! That’s not as escape plan that’s likely to work very often, I wouldn’t have thought. But it works here, and that’s the important thing.
Ooh, “allons y” again . . . I’ll say again, keep an eye out for that in a couple of months’ time.
If you have to be followed by something, I suspect that an enormous, glowing, stone man who can breathe fire would be at the bottom of my list of favourites. No, not the bottom: sharks would be lower. But very near the bottom of the list. Unless I happened to have a bucket of water handy, and how often does that happen?
Ooh, Donna was kidnapped while I wasn’t looking. But I like a companion who, tied to a table and threatened with a knife, responds “Don’t you dare!” She’s brilliant, Donna.
The Doctor met a sybil who could dance the tarantella? Sometimes I want to see some of these back stories. But you couldn’t make an entire episode out of them.
How on earth could you even think that turning into stone is a blessing? I mean, I know these seers are all mad, with the inhaling of red-hot stone dust and so forth, but how could you even assume that that was a good thing? I suppose it would cut down on medical bills—and if you’re not driven nuts by all the chanting and the rocking that the members of the sisterhood think is necessary, then you must be a fairly even-tempered person. I’d go nuts with all the repetition: it’s like fifteen toddlers.
No way, yes way, Appian Way? It made me laugh, anyway. And is that a Bill and Ted joke? There’s nothing I like more than a Bill and Ted joke.
That fact that the Doctor can see time—I suppose rather like the Tralfalmadorians (don’t correct my spelling) in Slaughterhouse Five, who can see all of time like a mountain range—then that might explain why he’s slightly mad, now. Especially since, as he says, he’s the only one left, so he can’t—as he’s done for years—ignore the responsibility.
Lucius really is rather shrill and annoying, isn’t he?
That water pistol must have an enormous reservoir. That’s convenient.
Oh, Pyrovillia (don’t correct my spelling!) has gone, has it? That’s also interesting. (I’m really enjoying the long-term plotting in this season. It seems to be rather more subtle than the “Bad Wolf” seeding in season one of the new series or—what was it in season two? I’ve forgotten now. Or even Harold Saxon in season three: ah, Master? You’re not dead, are you? Or, at least, you’ll regenerate, won’t you? Please come back!)
The Doctor’s about to make Vesuvius erupt, by the way. I got a bit carried away and forgot to mention any of the narrative developments.
Oh, dear: Lucius is dead. But then so are most of the inhabitants of Pompeii, now. And also Pliny the Elder. Or was it Pliny the Younger? No, it was the father, wasn’t it?
(Honestly: I’ve seen this episode before. I should do my Googling in advance, so I can look really clever.)
I’ll buy that the Pyrovillians’ spaceship could survive the exploding of a volcano—but not that they can outrun an explosion of super-heated gas.
The destruction of Pompeii is rather disturbing to watch: I suppose it’s because we’ve all seen the photographs of the bodies and the preserved houses, and the despairing poses here are just a little too evocative.
I don’t mind that the Doctor goes back for the family, here. (And, Doctor, just because you can’t save Gallifrey doesn’t mean you should never go back, ever.) But, as I was saying, I don’t mind that he goes back for this family. I’m a sucker for a happy ending, and this family were rather charming.
(I wish he’d said “Come with me if you want to live,” though. That would have been hilariously anachronistic. But, given the lack of sophistication in my sense of humour, it was probably in an early draft and removed as too unsubtle. I’ll just chuckle quietly over the possibility in my own head.)
But, even though I like the fact that at least one family were saved, I think the final visual joke is a bit over the top for me. But we’re not up to that yet.
So does “volcano” derive from Vulcan? It would, wouldn’t it? (Tim, you’d know that. My dictionary is still too far away.)
Donna is good for the Doctor, you know. She doesn’t take any rubbish from anyone, and the Doctor does need that, because he’s been too prone to having his own way.
Ah, there’s the visual joke that’s a bit much for me. And wouldn’t devout Romans still at least have ancestral masks?
Oh, that’s not important. That was a lovely, funny episode—except for the moments when all the Pompeiians were dying—and prefigures some of the other humorous episodes, like the Agatha Christie one.
Hey, it was filmed in Italy? No—I’d best not blog Doctor Who Confidential or else I’ll be here all night.
Next week, Ood. Creepy, creepy Ood.
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Tim wrote at Jul 13, 02:00 pm
Re Latin word for ‘volcano’: yes and no. The Romans didn’t have a common word for it, but they (and the Greeks) were definitely aware of the phenomenon (most notably at Etna). ‘Volcano’ derives from the name Vulcan, via the island Vulcano, off Sicily. Vulcano was believed to be Vulcan’s chimney long before the AD 79 eruption of Vesuvius; eruptions there were observed by Thucydides, Diodorus Siculus and Aristotle in the 1st, 3rd and 4th centuries BC respectively.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think the Romans and Greeks would have referred to volcanoes by a compound equivalent to ‘fire mountain’ or ‘burning mountain’, and/or by comparison, e.g. ‘a mountain like Etna’. (Most languages that do have a native word for volcano derive it from ‘fire mountain’ or something similar.)
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Catriona wrote at Jul 13, 08:59 pm
I knew you’d know the answer to that one. Mind, when I shared this information with my parents this morning, they’d completely forgotten that the episode had even mentioned the lack of a Latin word for “volcano,” so they were a bit bewildered about why I was telling them this.
But I’m fascinated.
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Matthew Smith wrote at Jul 14, 05:56 am
I thought this episode was a low point. I found the indoor sets unconvincing and just didn’t buy that it was a family home. They attempted to make some patriarchal society comments and yet the wife and daughter were quite at ease around the dithering husband. I would have thought there’d be a separation of space but maybe I’m just wrong. Also the treatment of the household God’s was trite. Not sure what I would have done or how they could have made it better though – I guess they were aiming for comedy over historical accuracy.
I also thought the spaceship volcano survival thing was terrible but perhaps not as bad as the alleged nuking fridge scene in Indiana Jones (which has become famous as a low point in film history apparently but I haven’t actually seen it)
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Catriona wrote at Jul 14, 07:55 am
Oh, no, Matt! That’s a shame: I really enjoyed this one.
I have seen the nuking-fridge scene in Indiana Jones, and I don’t think that the spaceship-volcano scene is nearly as improbable (although, at the risk of spoiling things for people, they’re almost exactly the same scene. Actually, the thing that amazed me most about the nuking-fridge scene was that he managed to get out of it afterwards: we were always told not to play in fridges because you can’t open the doors from the inside.) I can buy—from my “science is basically magic, and there’s no point trying to explain it to me” perspective—that an escape pod would be sturdy enough for their purposes, especially since the Pyroviles seemed to be rather fragile creatures.
I’m going to bow to Tim on the other subjects, but my understanding of Roman life (admittedly, very poor) leads me to suspect that there was a sharp division on gender lines in some aspects of life (especially in terms of available professions, for example) but that gendered spaces were more common in public areas (like the gymnasiums) than in private spaces: or at least that family life would have common social spaces (bedrooms would still have been segregated, but then they usually are in modern homes, as well.) It might also be the case that shared domestic spaces were more common in lower social orders (and this family were upwardly mobile, but not aristocratic); that was certainly the case in much later periods, but that doesn’t mean it was the case in Rome. So the common social life didn’t strike me as anachronistic, but I could be way off base on this. Tim would know.
I agree, though, that the treatment of household gods was perfunctory. It didn’t bother me in the first instance, because it seemed designed to show Quintus’s attitude, which was perfunctory as far as religion was concerned: his blase attitude to the gods was matched by his evident distaste for his sister’s intended profession. But I did find the replacement of the household gods with Donna and the Doctor rather improbable, and thought that they would at least have been presented in conjunction with the lares and penates and the ancestral masks.
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Tim wrote at Jul 14, 09:55 am
A spaceship, unlike a fridge, is designed to keep its occupants alive. I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to suggest that the pod had inertial dampers or internal gravity fields or some other sufficiently advanced technology to allow the Doctor and Donna to survive.
Matt, could you expand on what you didn’t like about the family setting? Roman women of the citizen classes in the late Republic and early Empire could socialise with men, hold property, get divorced, and lead independent lives, though they couldn’t vote or hold public office. With appropriate caveats, analogies can be drawn with the position of women in Victorian England.
Re the household gods, I agree it was a bit silly, but a reading that wouldn’t be out of line historically would be that they assumed afterwards that the Doctor and Donna were their household gods (or other protective spirits) all along.
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Catriona wrote at Jul 14, 10:15 am
I’m glad you mentioned the analogy to Victorian England, Tim, because that’s exactly what I was thinking with the sharp delineation of gendered public spaces (male-only clubs, for example) but shared domestic spaces. Of course, women couldn’t divorce in the Victorian period, but only be divorced—a key difference—and even then, not only were the grounds for divorce extremely restricted until late in the Victorian period (in fact, I think right into the Edwardian period) but a divorced woman would bear a social stigma. Of course, you did mention caveats (control of property is another one).
That’s a good point on the assumption that Donna and the Doctor were manifestations of their household gods, so that the new images were rather an attempt to more accurately depict the gods in light of additional information rather than a replacement of the traditional gods with new ones. That had not occurred to me, but I like it—it’s an elegant reading.
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Nick Caldwell wrote at Jul 14, 10:20 am
Tim, a good point regarding the Pyroville escape pod. Although, thinking about it, there’s conflicting evidence for its efficacy as a humanoid-friendly escape pod.
# The pod is too small to contain any of the adult Pyrovilles we saw in the episode, so who’s it actually for? Humanoid guests or passengers? The Doctor and Donna are a bit lucky then. # I initially wanted to say that the interior didn’t seem sufficiently padded for humans, but of course, you’re quite right that we can handwave an inertial dampening facility. Furthermore, Pyrovilles seem somewhat fragile and prone to shattering, so a dampener makes even more sense.
Really, it’s only the internal size of the pod that’s particularly problematic.
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Tim wrote at Jul 14, 11:25 am
Maybe Pyroviles shrink themselves down while they travel. I don’t know. :)